Dtc

[hotlicks2go]

New Spartan w/latest firmware 1128. Running the 250 tune with delete pipe and AFE II filter. After about a couple hundred miles the check engine light came on for the first time. Cleared DTCs and the check engine lamp came on again 20-30 miles later. Any thing to look for? Is this a normal thing to be aware of... having codes pop up periodiclly, or should I be looking for something? :confused:

[NuttyProfessor]

New Spartan w/latest firmware 1128. Running the 250 tune with delete pipe and AFE II filter. After about a couple hundred miles the check engine light came on for the first time. Cleared DTCs and the check engine lamp came on again 20-30 miles later. Any thing to look for? Is this a normal thing to be aware of... having codes pop up periodiclly, or should I be looking for something? :confused:

Check for air leaks around the MAF sensor. I recommend removing the MAF, using rtv sealant around the top of the tube, then reinstalling it. Allow it to cure overnight.

[Pahrump]

Check to see if its a 715 or 717 code

[dieseldobe]

What other intakes can we use that won't throw a code at all? I don't care about the most horsepower and would like a dry filter, but don't want to have to worry about codes.... Any ideas?

[Pahrump]

I hate to say this...but IMO its not the intake...I have the AFE and its not throwoing and intake code at all....maybe yours is...but mine sure as shit is not...never has.


Mine throw a TSS code....and I dont think that its related to the DD and/or the tune, I think its a bad sensor or a chaffed wire....gonna have Ford look at it I guess.

[fryjr]

For what I have read, S&B doesn't throw codes. I have read the AFE isn't sealed very well and causes codes to be thrown. Most like the AFE but there have been a few that have related codes thrown. I ended up just buying the S&B the other day.

[hotlicks2go]

I will post error codes if and when I recieve one again. From Matt at Spartan, I purchased the latest AFE Stage II PG-7 w/torque tube, which is a replacement air tube to the turbo. It's using silicone boots to connect setup and tight fitting rubber grommets for the crankcase vent and filter minder. The MAP is using its own stock o-ring gasket. I don't see where air could be leaking anywhere. To me it looks obvious the filter itself is the path of least resistance. I'm not sure how another filter setup can perform any better besides the media itself. Codes maybe due to too much air passing the MAP?
Also as a side note, I am running the 250 tune and have gotten on it heavy a few times... Never had the filter minder suck in.

[Pahrump]

I will post error codes if and when I recieve one again. From Matt at Spartan, I purchased the latest AFE Stage II PG-7 w/torque tube, which is a replacement air tube to the turbo. It's using silicone boots to connect setup and tight fitting rubber grommets for the crankcase vent and filter minder. The MAP is using its own stock o-ring gasket. I don't see where air could be leaking anywhere. To me it looks obvious the filter itself is the path of least resistance. I'm not sure how another filter setup can perform any better besides the media itself. Codes maybe due to too much air passing the MAP?
Also as a side note, I am running the 250 tune and have gotten on it heavy a few times... Never had the filter minder suck in.

I have the same intake......and I run the 250 all the time...and end up on it all the time...lol

[hotlicks2go]

MAF! not MAP... Sorry

[hotlicks2go]

OK, Check Engine light came on again...

a-Ford Specific
Mil status is On
0 DTCs reported

b-Generic OBO2
Failure reading DTCs Please Try Again
0 Pending DTCs reported

d-Ford Specific
Mil status is On
0 DTCs reported

Attempted to read with ignition on/off and also running. :confused:
Any ideas?

[mick1955]

hotlicks2go
Had the same problem after I loaded the new firmware, and config file. Mine also would not read any codes. At the time I was running the 210 tune, got on it from around 50 to 75 and the check engine light came on. Tried 3-4 times to read the code with no luck. I ended up loading the 150 tune, starting the engine and no code. Reloaded the 210 and ran the crap out of it with no check engine light coming back on. So far so good

[hotlicks2go]

Interesting... I'll try to unload the config. file and see if that helps. I haven't had a check engine light until I loaded that file. I'll keep posted. Thanks.:)

[dieseldobe]

I was told today from Spartan that the factory air set-up is good enough, no need for aftermarket cold air. Is anyone still running there stock air intake with the 210 tune?? Having any trouble?

[mick1955]

I ran the 210 tune on my truck for about 3 week with the stock intake system. It will suck the filter minder in if you get on it, also causing a check engine light. Every time I got the light, just popped the hood and reset the filter minder, and the check engine light would go off. Then I purchased the AFE Stage II w/Torque Tube. No problems so far, been running it for about a month and a half.

[Kimminau2]

I have the AFE and have a constant 1103 code. Too much air at the MAF. Most likely due to the lousy seal around the MAF. We will see however because I am about to put the S&B on and see if I still have that code.

[Kimminau2]

I know that someone posted a link to a listing of DTC codes, but it must have gotten trashed when the forum crashed.
Anyways, does any know what P0087 is?

[hotlicks2go]

Keep us posted on the S&B... Would like to know if there is any change. Also does the S&B come with replacement tube to the turbo? or only airbox pre-MAF?

[mick1955]

Kimminau2 - This should help:

P0087 Fuel Rail/System Pressure - Too Low. This error will be set if the fuel pressure in the rail is too low and the controller cannot regulate it to the setpoint. 20 % “overposition” of the PCV or VCV [% PWM] 5% deviation of the fuel rail pressure to the fuel rail pressure setpoint. Low pressure system, wiring to VCV and PCV, FUP sensor, pump

[dieseldobe]

Thanks mick1955, I'm kinda leaning toward the S&B intake now myself... I'm stay hanging around here till I get some results. Still what about just a drop in air filter?????

[oilburnr]

I am getting the same intermittent P1103 code, I have yet to try and seal the MAF, but I have been told that is what it is. The major problem is the DD will not read or clear the code. It just shows the MIL status is on, no codes shown.

But a cheapo autozone code scanner reads it just fine, clears it too.

[stroker08]

Thanks mick1955, I'm kinda leaning toward the S&B intake now myself... I'm stay hanging around here till I get some results. Still what about just a drop in air filter?????

I got an afe drop in filter and i am running the 210 with about 1500 miles and haven't had any trouble

[Glassman]

I got an afe drop in filter and i am running the 210 with about 1500 miles and haven't had any trouble

I got a drop in AFE with my Air Ram hood and have had no problems running the 210 or 250 tunes.
I tried the AFE CAI on the truck before Spartan and the truck freaked out. POS!

[Kimminau2]

Keep us posted on the S&B... Would like to know if there is any change. Also does the S&B come with replacement tube to the turbo? or only airbox pre-MAF?


Well I installed the S&B and here is my take.
Overall the AFE is easier to install. I am not happy about the way the S&B fits in the stock mounting bracket. The AFE does not use the stock bracket. The S&B comes with what AFE refers to as a torque tube (optional on the AFE) tube from airbox to turbo.
I do not notice any real performance difference. I have not calculated mileage but I venture a guess it has not changed. However the S&B has not thrown a code. The AFE threw the 1103 code anytime I jumped on it (with or without Spartan or SCT). I have given the S&B a pretty good workout and no codes. Both sound about the same but I think you hear the turbo a little more with the S&B.

Anybody want an AFE with +/-3,000 miles on it?

[dieseldobe]

I got an afe drop in filter and i am running the 210 with about 1500 miles and haven't had any trouble




Would you tell me where you bought your afe drop in filter???

[raven_hammer]

The AFE system well........sucks. I see them all the time with driveability issues. S&B for the win

[hotlicks2go]

I removed the Config. file but still using the 1128 firmare. Ran for several days without any codes. Still same AFE filter setup and no other changes. Reloaded the config. file this morning and after about 50 miles of drive time the Check Engine Light came back on. I never had a CEL before the Config. file was loaded originally. I am assuming that this may be the cause of the CEL... which by the way leaves no readable codes but the DD will clear and turn off CEL. If anyone else experiances a CEL after latest updates, try uninstalling the Config file and see if the problem ceases.

[CDriver]

I removed the Config. file but still using the 1128 firmare. Ran for several days without any codes. Still same AFE filter setup and no other changes. Reloaded the config. file this morning and after about 50 miles of drive time the Check Engine Light came back on. I never had a CEL before the Config. file was loaded originally. I am assuming that this may be the cause of the CEL... which by the way leaves no readable codes but the DD will clear and turn off CEL. If anyone else experiances a CEL after latest updates, try uninstalling the Config file and see if the problem ceases.

I think you're just seeing some randomness here. The config file is nothing more than XML(a text file) with the gauges defined in there. Open it up. Besides, the DashDaq should only be reading info that comes out of the trucks computer.

[hotlicks2go]

Yes, that may be the case. It just seems odd that I have been driving for a week after the inital install of everything without any issues at all. Then installed the Config file and shortly after I get a CEL. Remove the file and several days without CEL. Reinstall Config file and get the CEL again. Also happens very shortly after file was installed, within 50 miles or so. As previously mentioned, the DD doen't read any codes.

[hotlicks2go]

Have the DD disconnected today. Still running the 250 tune, dpf delete and AFE w/torque tube. Latest firmware and conf. file. CEL (on) after approx 50 miles. Then CEL (off) after another another 50 or so. Then CEL returned again. :confused:
RTV 'ing MAF tonight. We'll see what happens.

[stroker08]

Would you tell me where you bought your afe drop in filter???

I don't remember where it was from i just searched the net and found one and it was only like $80.00