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Old 12-21-2011, 06:59 PM
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Exclamation Stock TCM Transmission Relearn Procedure

This process should be performed if you have a stock TCM and have loaded the 210 TP, 250, 275, 300, 310, or 350 tunes. I have made this relearn as painless as possible since several people feel that the old relearn is too stressful on the truck. It's not something that you have to do, but it is something that I highly recommend if you want the ultimate consistency out of your 5R110W.

1. From a stop, accelerate to 50-55 MPH at 10-15% throttle. DO THIS FIVE TIMES.
2. From a stop, accelerate to 55-60 MPH at 20-25% throttle. DO THIS FIVE TIMES.
3. From a stop, accelerate to 55-60 MPH at 40-50% throttle. DO THIS THREE TIMES.
4. From a stop, accelerate to 60 MPH at 60-75% throttle. DO THIS TWO TIMES. ALTHOUGH I RECOMMEND THIS STEP, IT IS OPTIONAL.
5. From a stop, accelerate to 60-70 MPH at 85-100% throttle. DO THIS TWO TIMES. THIS IS AN OPTIONAL STEP IN THE PROCEDURE.

If you aren't sure about throttle position, you can monitor throttle position percentage with the DashDAQ.
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Hi Jeff - I'm new to the site and the Spartan console. Even though I'm pretty light on the gas (other than a little occasional fun), I've been having problems with my transmission since the install (slips, sometimes it feels like the truck isn't sure what gear it should be in, sometimes the truck won't move when I give it gas and so I have to back off and then reapply the gas). I assumed I needed to upgrade the transmission but saw this post while looking for threads about the issues I'm having. With that being said, is the protocol listed above something that one needs to do once the Spartan is installed? I never did anything like this and am wondering if that's why the truck is struggling. A bit about the truck: 2010 F350 Diesel / Spartan Phalanx (have up to +350 but have it on the +250) / 40 inch tires / 10 inch lift / re-geared the truck from 3.55 to 4.56 / front and rear lockers / aFe stage 2 intake / cat and dpf delete. Any thoughts would be great (or directions to past threads that would be helpful reads). Thanks!!! Nate
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:30 PM
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I recommend it on any tune that has higher line pressure (firmer shifts). It helps the tunes shift more consistently and smooth out quicker. The tunes I recommend it on are the following:

210 Tow Performance
250
275
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310
350
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I have the same truck and having the same problems. have you figured anything out since that last post?
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:58 PM
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Since my post I did the relearn process Jeff mapped out with the +310 and the truck has been driving much, much better. I just can't give it more gas than about 70% or so. Not ideal but makes me smile the way it drives and it's good enough for now until I upgrade the transmission.
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Default 210 Tow Tune/210 egr/dpf delete Comparison

Hi Jeff, I am new and really appreciate all the information you post. My question/observation is that I used the 210 tow tune and the shifting was very rough. I did another tune and used the 210 egr/dpf delete tune and followed your transmission relearn steps and my truck is perfect. My question is when I want to tow should I reload the 210 tow tune with the rough shifting or should I use the 210 egr/dpf delete tune with the mild shifting?
BTW- 2008-EGR/DPF DELETE, FLOW PRO 4" TURBO BACK DUAL EXHAUST, COLD INTAKE.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:07 AM
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The shifting is "rough" with the 210 Tow Performance because it is meant to be a heavy tow tune. Under heavy stress, the clutches in your transmission are more likely to slip and overheat. With the enhanced shifting of the 210 Tow Performance, the slipping is much less likely to occur. If you're towing light, the standard 210 tune is probably going to be okay. By the way, a relearn is not necessary with the standard 210 tune. Only the tunes I have listed above.
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I need to do the transmission relearn but can't figure out how to monitor throttle position with the DashDaq. Can you help me with that?
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Old 02-02-2014, 06:45 PM
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It will be listed as accelerator pedal position or APP%
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That makes sense but I don't see either of those anywhere. I assume it would be under gauges, right? Do I need to change some settings to get it to show up?

Thanks.
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Select gauges on your dashdaq. Tap on one of the gauges where you would like to monitor the pedal position. That will open a screen that allows you to set parameters for the gauge. Tap the top block where the PID name is. Go to a-Ford specific PIDs. There should be a couple of "accelerator position" PIDs to choose from. Pic one, if it doesn't work try another. You will need to set the parameters for the gauge then tap done or save or whatever it says. You should be able to move the accelerator pedal and see the % change.
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:42 PM
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Thank you very much!
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I see now that the steps for setting up a gauge are in the included instructions. I just bought the truck with the tuner and am still feeling my way around. Thanks for your patience.
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do you need to do it every time you retune your truck?
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:49 AM
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It's only necessary with the 210 Tow, 250, 275, 300, 310, and 350 tunes. Everytime you tune your truck, the PCM and TCM are flashed. This means everything is reset and it would be wise to do some sort of relearn. Otherwise the shifts can become irregular/sloppy.
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Default Transmission relearn steps

I have a question. When doing the relearn, do you have to do each step immediately after each other? Or do you have some time between steps?
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Old 06-20-2014, 03:26 PM
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For it to be most effective, you will need to do it all at once. However, it doesn't have to be done exactly like this. It's just something I put together because a lot of people didn't feel comfortable with the original process.
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